I use a prs 45 cal 250 grain big lube six cavity mold and my guns are dirty after 50 rounds but the action still works from all the lube the bullets carry. Reloading historical educational firearms table of contents chapter 1 a few basics 2 lubrication and lubricants 3 the grease. The 45 colt with black powder loads is only slightly slower velocity than the 45 acp with smokeless. I shoot 45 colt with black powder for cowboy action and i think your bullets are not carrying enough lube to keep the fouling soft. I dont think it would hold enough powder to get the bullet out of the barrel.
This is a discussion on powders used for 45 colt within the reloading forums, part of the firearm forum category. I have concerns about the powder ring that happens were the 45 colt brass ends and 454 begins. I make my own out of bees wax and lambs tallow and it is the best that i have personally used. I know the copper jacket is harder than a soft lead normally used with black powder loads, but does that make it a no go. Numerous modern smokeless powders are double base in construction, containing both nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine. Pyrodex p is intended to be a direct replacement for fffg black powder when measured volumetrically using a black powder measure. If there is a criticism, it is for the degree of duplication of. Twentysix years on this job has suggested the oversight regarding keiths endorsement of the. They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. The vast majority of my 45 colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets. Reloading a colt navyarmy blackpowder revolver youtube. Colt black powder series second generation 1860 army with box numbered to the revolver. This is one of the most commonly asked questions by black powder revolver owners.
Nov 15, 20 ok, so due to the recent unavailability of most any smokeless handgun powder, ive come to the conclusion that i need to branch out. Out of all the options, i think im going to start reloading 45 colt with trail boss. Like every one of these books in the series and find them very useful to supplement my new reloading books. It was originally a blackpowder revolver round developed for the colt single action army revolver. Pb that i have is hordes for my 3220 loads cause its simply awesome. Black powder weight can vary from lot to lot, thus you must measure it by volume to ensure proper case fill level. Black powder, modern, and obsolete ammunition buffalo arms. Starley warwickshire rfd 156 oak house,birmingham road,warwick. Never mix any two powders regardless of type, brand, or source. Ensure that there is no airspace between the bullet and the powder.
Revolver conversions for black powder pistols gun and. Mike venturino has written a couple, one for rifles and one for pistols. It has lots of good info on black powder loads as well. Loading and shooting black powder cartridge guns view. Never substitute any smokeless powder for black powder or any black powder substitute. Cast bullets for the black powder cartridge rifles. I run a slightly compressed charge of 3f real black powder, bullet base seated snug on the powder. Shooting black powder in cartridge guns the high road. Unless you wipe between shots youll want to make a blow tube and use it to keep the fouling soft.
There are many books published about shooting black powder. Book cbbpcr cast bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by paul matthews. Pietta black powder pistol loads whats load does pietta recommend for my black powder pistol. By the mid 1970s i had discovered carbide and had my first set of rcbs. Reloading the 45 colt is a great choice for reloading. What started as a small dream has become a multimillion dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. For decades it was the only powder even listed in many manuals. My question is, if planning on using black powder load on my 45. This seems to be the definitive book on bp reloading. Has anyone ever tried to load some of these up for a 45 caliber anything. So trail boss was developed specifically with old, large capacity black powder cartridges like 45 colt in mind. Originally posted by tommyhof thats good info thanks. Lyman black powder reloading manual 2nd edition impact guns. Most measures i see used with bp are aluminum to get rid of the static electricity.
Mar 28, 2017 reloading a colt navyarmy blackpowder revolver clyde n bundy. I read that trailboss would allow me to use lighter bullets. When i started reloading with an awful lot of help from a lot of fellahs on this site about 8 years ago i started on. Reloading and accurizing for the 45 colt revolver part 2, by. After over 30 years of reloading, i still use 2400 in my 44s. Also, the handloader has many component options to produce high quality ammunition at a cost much lower than purchasing factory new ammunition.
The gun digest blackpowder loading manual paperback 28 may 2004. Ive got the regular smokeless loads well in hand, but would like to try some real honest to god black powder loads just for fun. See page on powder location in case affecting fps elsewhere on pages. Buffalo arms has the reloading supplies to load the old and obsolete ammo. If, for some reason, you were masochist and really wanted to shoot black powder loads in a modern firearm and deal with all the cleaning and corrosion issues, it would be perfectly safe.
This book is the best source of information for reloading black powder rounds for the springfield trap door. This information and data may vary considerably depending on many factors, including the components used, component assembly, the type of firearm used, reloading techniques, safety precautions practiced, etc. Getting low and am thinking of trying something different as unique is so dirty. First of all, there is no such thing as a 45 long colt despite what you may have read. All their colts are very rare and collectors are finding out that they are colt, not italian. The cartridge can be easily inspected along every step of the reloading process. Loading the black powder rifle cartridge 9781879356207. The shot group that measures the smallest will be the powder charge that will give the best accuracy when loaded with the other.
Black powder is a class a explosive and static electricity will make it go boom. Book cpbbpc casting premium bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by paul matthews. I also suggest that you at least consider annealing the cases. This book is great for history reference and reports how much powder the early 45 colt cartridge held for the standard weight bullet of the day. Just remembger that plastic in a powder measure and black powder do not get along together, i. The size of the 45 colt cartridge helps to make it an easy one to reload. Loading and shooting black powder cartridge guns items per page.
Reloading for black powder the firearms forum the buying. Although here we load for the 41 colt this technique will work for any black powder cartridge. Black powder is measured by volumn and not weight, but it is close 1%2% difference with goex powder. Enter your mobile number or email address below and well send you a link to download the free kindle app. Check dennis adlers and dennis russells books for details. Army in 1873 and served as an official us military handgun cartridge for 14 years. Booklrh lyman reloading handbook by lyman products. I am loading for my self along with some less experianced reloaders. But, i used hard cast and i knew the guns could take it. Reloading historical educational firearms table of contents chapter 1 a few basics 2 lubrication and lubricants 3 the grease cookie 4 bullets and bullet moulds 5 casting the bullet 6 care of the cartridge case before and after 7 the powder charge black, pyrodex or duplex 8 loading the black powder rifle cartridge 9 developing and testing. Sometimes the cartridge itself tells the story but read the books and follow what is recommended there. I am looking for the best bulky powder for use in a lot of different 45 colts.
This manual is entirely new, from the ground up, and includ. The round was originally loaded with a 255grain lead bullet over 40 grains of ffg black powder for a velocity of about 900 fps. I went by the books and committed to supplies of trailboss. Reloading and accurizing for the 45 colt revolver part 2, by papa bear. Very useful load fate for iconic cartridges such as. Reloading black powder cartridges 4570 book youtube. I recently bought a 45 70 pedersoli sharps rifle and want to continue to shoot. Book leemr modern reloading, second edition, by richard lee. Reloading and accurizing for the 45 colt revolver part 2.
Sell your black powder revolver for free today on gunsamerica. Buy the gun digest blackpowder loading manual 4th expurgated edition by sam fadala isbn. See blackpowder page 1 for reloading instructions, information and more loads shown below are from lymans black powder handbook by kenneth ramage, editor. Do all your powder measurements by volume yes, im yelling volume. There are books that cover reloading black powder cartridges.
Jan 28, 2017 reloading the 45 colt is a great choice for reloading. Reviewed in the united states on february 25, 2011. Bookcbbpcr cast bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by paul matthews. I shoot cas once in a while my 1st year i shot over rounds of 45 colt so i understand the economy part of light loads. May 03, 2017 this will help to compact the powder and also, allow you to put more powder into the case. However trail boss is a modern smokeless powder and like all modern smokeless powders, the pressure spike it develops is very short and sharp, unlike the much more forgiving broad pressure curve developed by black powder. Revolver conversions for black powder pistols gun and game. Powder needs to be stored in original containers only, when not in use.
See note on new nitro 100 powder at bottom of page saami pressures for standard. Muzzleloader, sam fadala to produce the most comprehensive black powder manual available. The principal uses for pyrodex p are in muzzleloading pistols, cap and ball revolvers, and in small bore, muzzleloading rifles. First we have to understand, i really dont like black powder because of all the reasons in the title of this article. Black powder 45 colt loads northwest firearms oregon. Min charge max charge optimal charge bullet make bullet type. Too much time was spent on things not really to do with bp reloading, but that can be skipped. From what ive read on other forums, it is donut shaped flakes, big and fluffy, to take up more room in cases originally designed for black powder. Bpcr competitions with an uberti 1885 winchester high wall clone n. Loads shown below are from lymans black powder handbook by kenneth ramage, editor. Trailboss was designed for use in modern smokeless powder guns chambered for cartridges that were designed in the black powder era 45 colt, 38 special, 44. Here is some useful information that should help you begin the process of finding the right load for your pistol. Unique is the powder i think of when ever someone asks for a powder for the 45 colt.
I purchased some 45 caliber sabot rounds for my wifes black powder rifle before i found out that it did not have enough twist. Sep 19, 2014 pietta black powder pistol loads whats load does pietta recommend for my black powder pistol. Reloading a colt navyarmy blackpowder revolver clyde n bundy. The one manual all black powder shooters should own lyman has teamed up with mr. Buffalo arms company carries black powder ammunition, black powder, hard to find. Make sure your gun can handle it before you use any of these loads listed below with stars. Sabot black powder bullets loaded for a 45lc if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Take a container of water with a large opening on it to the range with you. It contains much more information needed by black powder shooters. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
I have done some reloading for my ruger vaquero 45. This will help to compact the powder and also, allow you to put more powder into the case. I ordered some black dawg prelubed cast bullets to load, but in the mean time i have some questions. Bookleemr modern reloading, second edition, by richard lee. Never substitute any smokeless powder for black powder or its substitute. Industry maximum average pressure limits are currently established at 14,000 psi and none of the accompanying data exceeds that limit. Ive browsed every powder manufacturers website for data that i can find. But, in the conversion area of a black powder gun, i am a newbie. The winter 2017 issue of black powder cartridge news also has a good article on reloading for trapdoors. Army adopted a new service handgun and cartridge, the legendary colt single action army pistol and the equally iconic. Com 45 colt ammo started as a black powder cartridge that has roots going back to 1872. But iinm they are no more or at very least hard to locate.